The Orange Dragon Foundation and this trip around the world all started because I became ill. When dealing with a serious illness, a subject that comes up is, to put it bluntly, the prospect of death. And that is usually not an easy subject to face, or to talk about. On the other hand, I have found that when you don’t talk about it, it can quickly become the elephant in the room, or it shows up as an undercurrent in other interactions. So, for me it has always been better to face the topic head on. A while ago, I had a conversation with Rob Bruntink from Bureau MORBidee and as it turns out it’s quite possible to have a good conversation about this difficult topic, strange as it may seem, we even had some fun . What we talked about? Well you can watch it here (and subtitles are available if you need them).